How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Why are Capri cigarettes so expensive?

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

What is the most comfortable heel height for women's dress shoes and what are the differences between wearing high heels and lower heels?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

What are the best examples of reverse psychology?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Sain (a barber)

Now here in this verse

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ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Why do a bra and panties have to match?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Is anyone else losing complete respect for the US at this point?

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Why would calling me an incel help anything? How does that solve anything? Why can’t you actually be helpful and offer productive honest advice?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

How do atheists explain the fact that when I pray to God, I feel better and I get a feeling of comfort? Doesn’t this prove that a God exists?

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

I am like a fish out of water,

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

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He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

NOW…

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Kabir (a weaver)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

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For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

CONCLUSION: